Well, John is right in that PeTA and HSUS lobbyists (in every state capitol and
in major cities) aren’t concerned with elder or child abuse. I don’t they are
truly concerned with animal abuse either (PeTA kills almost all animals that
are placed in the VA “shelter.”). They are concerned with the donations that
the headlines of supposed animal abuse brings them. I do believe most of
those who have been hornswoggled by the Animal Rights groups care about the
animals, but in an anthropomorphic way, not as “natural” animals.
Storm
On May 29, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Molly Snider (Redacted sender
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If you don't think PETA and HSUS don't have lobbyists, then you truly are
very out of touch.
Molly
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I agree Molly but as we all know elder, child, and animal abuse is not a care
or concern of the lobbyists much less the Obama Administration. Writing
letters and follow up phone calls to State Senators, congressional
delegation, and the media will be much more effective.
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On Friday, May 29, 2015, Molly Snider < dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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More recent statistics indicate seniors are the majority being abused with
children a close 2nd.
Wish government could get the message to get their care concerns and
lobbyists on more defined
track...
Molly
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Children are humans..and perhaps the least respected and most abused group of
any sub-group of people Ed
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except.....children are humans. They have guardians.
Animals are property, they are owned.
again, its the entire issue of rights of property and I don't want that
touched with my animals. I am their advocate and owner. Nothing should
ever be in question about that.
Molly
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If one animal is represented then ALL animals must be represented - just as
those with diminished capacity or children. How would that be even possible?
I don’t believe we’ve lost the war yet, but we do certainly need to
understand what is happening and it DOES impact all GSD owners… about time to
stretch the minds and become aware.
Stormy
On May 28, 2015, at 7:44 PM, David Fritsche < d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx
<about:blank>> wrote:
Then how do we deal with children? They are represented in Court by a
guardian ad litem. It would be the same with an animal. Some think even
plants suffer when they are cut. I have mixed feelings about an animal being
represented.
Being a flaming liberal can be daunting at times.
Evan L.Ginsburg
Just finished an article for the Review on this subject. Will not detail it
here, because I no longer own it, but there are greater issues then us vs.
HSUS & PETA.
Just to say that our society is shifting and the world view of the past is no
longer a universal concept in America. The right to own property, whether an
animal or a house or anything is shifting. It was the basis of the revolution
– from power by the ruler to power from the people was a magnificent and
freeing thing. But increasingly we are being challenged by the collectivistic
view of property as belonging to the state and the attending opening for
elite groups to empower themselves to ‘speak for the animals,’ or ‘allocate
personal wealth’ to those who do not have any or…. It is a war and I do not
know how it will turn out.
If animals have human status then our entire philosophical structure falls
and the owning of any property is suspect.
Most of you know my take on all this, so…. Being a conservative is also
daunting but not uncertain.
Dave
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