The only other thing you can't see from ringside are the handlers who are holding dogs together by a thread! They may pass the loose lead exam through double handling or because their worst nightmare is outside the ring - not the judge. Those dogs who roll their eyes and are so tense its like handling a spring about to explode! Those are things not visible from ringside that definitely should affect the judge's decisions..... Personally I'd love to see a judge critique every placement at a Specialty show!!! The AKC however would fry us for it! Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of Ch Firedog, Ch Cookie, Ch Flair, BIS/BISS Ch Yancy, and Ch Flash! Website updated 10/05 -------------- Original message -------------- > Now, what is it other than teeth and testicles that one cannot see from > outside the ring ? > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================