Herding is not away from the National site for any reason except that it is very difficult to find a site that can handle all at the same location along with Agility, Obed. and make everyone happy with the seating, controlled temperature, enclosed buildings, bathing / grooming / stalls, RV parking, and Obedience and Agility facilities etc. These type of sites should be seriously considered for semi permanent when they ARE found. Perry, Ga. was one.......the Kentucky site would have been one......Salt Lake City is one....seems Colorado was also?? ( not sure on Colo. ) I agree with Zoa and Val. It would definitely attract more participation and spectators. We miss herding every year at the National because of the different location and the week before.....and there is no way we can even consider entering our dogs in herding in conjunction with a National when it is miles away and days before. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com From: Zoa Rockenstein To: terranorte@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:51 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Purina scheduling I also show in both herding and conformation and totally agree with Val! It is a total burnout to have the herding at a site hundreds of miles, and several hours, away from the show site. Please, let's not call it a tradition! It is more like a bad habit that we need to break! Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com **************************************************************************** From: "terranorte@xxxxxxx" <terranorte@xxxxxxx> Kim and all: As a serious herding exhibitor & conformation exhibitor - I would really like to see the herding trial held on Monday & Tuesday and on the same site as the rest of the national. When it is held on the weekend before - it means basically 2 trips, one to the herding trial and one to the national for everything else. This is definitely the case when the trial is held at a separate location. We wonder why there is such a separation between performance and conformation exhibitors and fancier - this is why. ~ Val Manning From: Kim McNamara <klite3gsd@xxxxxxxxx> < Herding is already the weekend before and usually at a different site. It does make some sense to have everything on site and all performance on the same days followed by all conformation.>> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================