Patrick, There are two reasons, I think, that people get testy about this site 1. The attempt to move the 2012 National to it instead of the already reserved (and deposit paid) Colorado site. Because of the November date chosen for that, it would have meant that many would not have been able to fly dogs in because of weather restrictions. 2. Even in good weather it is difficult to fly dogs in because there is no Hub for an airline in St. Louis. That makes getting the 500 crate that most GSD are required to use very difficult to get into planes that are not large enough to have doors to accommodate them. If this facility was closer to a Hub, there would be more enthusiasm for it. JMHO Sue Mazzeo ***************************** Ed, you're absolutely right. Outside or inside if what the director told me is still accurate. Inside flooring is the same material that is used for Olympic track and field events. Outside is beautiful grass. Plus they have a herd of sheep on site for us to use at no cost. I spoke with the director of operations there before construction was completed on it and have been bringing this site up on this list for at least two years. It usually just makes everyone mad. I don't know why. I guess it's because this site is not in California or New York or Texas or Colorado or Florida or............ Patrick CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================