Purina also hosts the Border Collie National EVERY year. They have a standing reservation to return there annually the 2nd week of October. Why don't we make a reservation for the 3rd week of October? Yes, maybe we'll have rain, but so what? We may also have beautiful weather. The average high for October 15th is 72. Average precipitation for October is only 3.22 inches for the entire month (December, January, & February are the only months with less precipitation). We would need to set up a C Course for herding at Purina, but they have the space to do it. Tracking is only 10 minutes away. There are wonderful bathroom facilities right next to the rings (indoor plumbing, etc.!). The RV spots are fantastic, only drawback is that there is no "dump", but we could hire a honeywagon for RV sewer service. Many shows do that. Some shows include it in the price of "RVing", others have a charge for the service ($10 is what we've paid when it's not included). I had also heard that there was a place there at Purina now where we could do a dinner.....but personally I like Lew Bunch's idea of a ringside outdoor barbeque a LOT better than a formal dinner!! Julie Degen ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================