[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Puppy Pricing
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- To: "ANN SCHULTZ" <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>, brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx, mlgray@xxxxxxxx, "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:11:23 -0600
Ann makes very good points. We sell our show prospects unless we need one
for the continuation of our breeding program.We have been asked to sell
older dogs..we have declined, not because we didn't think the show home
would be good, or the price wasn't right..it was again, just because we
needed the dog in our breeding program. I pro-rate the price of the puppy
based on age and potential. If you are willing to assume the risk of a
12-14 week sold puppy the price is less. If you would like for us to grow
it out until5- 6mos, teeth in, ears up, pre-lims done..then the price is
more..as it should be there is less risk involved. Two years ago we took a
chance on a novice show home. I sold a nice bitch, reasonably priced to a
gentleman in Utah.She was almost 5mos old when he got her as I wanted to
make certain there weren't any glitches in her development. He finished her
in short order and even put a major and points on her himself. Nothing like
success to get you hooked on the sport! We sold him a second dog with a
major...he finished that one rather quickly also..two dogs finished in
18mos. On the flip side I know quite a few breeders/handlers that sell
EVERYTHING as show quality. They get the money.Their mantra is".if it
doesn't turn out..big deal..we will give them a replacement." Over the
years, we have had many inquiries from potential show homes..When I tell
them, great ones don't happen overnight..if you want the best you have to
be patient..they don't want to wait..when the mood hits them ..they want it
NOW.so they impulse buy and meet with disappointment after disappointment.I
have placed very good finishable dogs in pet homes because it was just too
much of a pain to try to find a good show home. I am ok with that, because
I know they have great homes and will be good ambassadors for the
breed.Christine
> [Original Message]
> From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx>; <mlgray@xxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 12/22/2006 7:35:26 AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Puppy Pricing
>
> Ann Marie, How many of your give away show puppies have finished or for
that matter how many have you bred and finished/? I evaluate my puppies at
8-10 weeks, sell the pets and keep the show quality puppies and grow them
out for 4 months or even older. before they are available.
$2000-2500 is a price of a good show puppy, pets sell for $750 on limited
registration. Almost every show puppy is for sale. Only once in a while do
I not make one available and I am usually looking at future breeding stock
and it is not always the best I keep back. Several of my Best dogs have
been puppies I couldn't sell. Ch Inherit the Earth of Edan (96 BOB, 4
times in Top 10) was offered for $1000 at 4 months of age in the early
90's and the only interested buyer told me I was asking too much. Ch Good
to the Last Drop of Edan was on my website last fall for 2 months. I had
only one interested buyer and they bought elsewhere. This dog was Reserve
Futurity Dog from the Jr Class and
> finished in 6 shows from BBE at 15 months. Ann
Ann Mariano <brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: --- mlgray@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > I just copied this off of the bulletin board at work. I
> > guess 1200.00 is not
> > a bad price for a quality GSD.
> >
> > Adorable golden doodles, $1000.00, only ONE, ONE boy left
>
> $1200 is very reasonable for puppies. Some other breeds
> charge $2000 + for pups, and people with "German" lines
> charge that and more for pups. If you look on line, you can
> also find "King Shepherds" for $2000 +, so why should
> breeders with quality dogs charge less? For some reason
> alot of Shepherd people are just afraid to charge more.
> Considering the cost of OFA fees, stud fees, breeding
> tests, showing (which can easily get into thousands of
> dollars), training, feeding quality food, etc. I think
> breeders should charge atleast that. Pet stores sell pups
> for that and more. My last two litters I sold "pets" on
> Limited Reg for $1750, all sold before 8 weeks of age. I
> gave away two "show" pups on co-ownerships, and reduced a
> price for a "show" male since I knew the people would be a
> good pet AND show home. I only have pups on avg once a
> year (some time less) so its not like I have puppies year
> round, and I am definately not trying to live off my dogs
> considering the amount of showing, and training, and
> traveling I do with my dogs. My one girl who is now 7
> 1/2, had 3 litters and is now spayed, my other girl is 4
> 1/2 and has had one litter. Five years ago, I sold pets for
> $800, and I was told by another breeder in my area to raise
> my prices since they were getting #1200-$1500 back then,
> and they and other breeders were trying to get the price of
> pups in our area up. My next litter I did, and then raised
> it again when I heard some breeders were getting $2000 for
> pets in my area. When people called they did not even
> question my price. I had Champion titled and OFA certified
> parents, my dogs are part of my family,I do not breed often
> so the puppy buyers I came in contact felt my price was
> warranted since other breeders in my area were getting
> that even when they did not have titled parents and/or OFA
> certified parents. I think if breeders asked more, you
> would also have more breeders OFA Certifing and titling
> their dogs as well. Breeding is to improve your dog/line,
> and if you are doing that the price of pups will reflect
> that as well.
>
> Ann Marie
> www.geocities.com/amarigermanshepherds/Amari.html
> Home of Ch Fairway's Leah v Nadelwald TC OFA
> and her daughters
> R/BIF Ch Amari's Ava Gardner TC OFA
> Amari's Beware of Foxy Roxy CGC (Major pointed/Group
> placer)
> & the baby, Ava's daughter
> Amari's Confession of a Drama Queen
> Breeder/Owner of
> Amari's Bandit of Broadcreek (12 points/1 Major @ 14 months)
>
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