Points very well taken, and no it is unlike anything most of us have ever tried. Many of these animals coming to us will be older and sicker, many may have temperment problems and need training and socializing. That being said the conceipt is valid and we do need to start thinking and working toward these goals of GSD centers located throughout the Nation. Morgan tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Its 'doable' but its not a simple refit. Keep in mind that the existing runs can't be over two feet wide with small dog/cat sized door openings through the wall. Everything would have to be ripped out, new openings cut through the block, others blocked in, and very few GSD sized runs will fit in that area. As one of the folks who pulls/transports for Last Hope I'm not trying to knock the idea just being a realist. I'd love to see us have a justified place to house dogs - either temporoary or long term, or both. However, I wouldn't like to see us set up a facility like we had here in GA many years ago that set up a facility and got in over their heads. They ended up being closed by the state when animals weren't receiving proper care/conditions deteriorated due to sheer numbers and lack of staff to care for them all. This is not something that can just be done overnight. It needs careful planning and management. There are existing dogs on the property. What do we do with them? Euthanize them to set up a 'safe haven' for other dogs? Wow, what publicity that would get us......... [this was a suggestion/supposition in another post. I didn't make it up] Place them in other breed rescue? Adopt them out? The first hurdle is getting the money together to purchase the place which we can do. But there are other decisions that have to be made and long term funding for the facility that needs to be established before we move forward. Other considerations right off the top........What happens the day there is no money for say food and forty dogs on the property??????? How about multiple caretakers? One person is not physically capable of caring for dogs without a break seven days a week for an undefined time period. If you happen to find someone willing to commit to that.... who will have time to transoprt dogs to the vet, do temperament evaluations, training, and just basic spending time with the charges, handle adoptions, paperwork, etc. Managing a falility like this is not like owning a private hobby kennel....... -- Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of BIS/BISS Ch Yancy ITs HT PT RE CD TC CGC BH, Helios IPO3, Ch Flair, Tess, and Gilli RN, and all the others waiting at the bridge ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ Morgan and His Angels Precious, OFA Princess, CGC, TDI, GSDCA Health Award "RAW" fed, No Vaccinations --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================