Puppy Mills are in the eye of the beholder. It is never MY kennel; it would have to be someone else's kennel. From what you say of this lady, IMHO, she isn't a puppy miller, and I don't blame her for not answering your questions. I think she was being very polite to even discuss her business with you. Registering your dogs/puppies with AKC/UKC or any other registering body, does NOT make a reputable, responsible breeder. Breeding registerable dogs does NOT make a reputable, responsible breeder. Paula, 216 days and counting ----Original Message Follows---- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:14:16 -0700 (PDT) From: albert detmer <albertdetmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Puppy Mill Okay, just what is determined to be a puppy mill? There is a local lady here that raises her own breed of dogs and has done so for the past 20 years plus or minus. I understand she interviews all prospective buyers has plenty of kennel help and Kennels are very clean. These are small dogs and I am not going to go into the crosses she made to get this breed. She belongs to my health club and is well thought of by it members, HOWEVER; When I asked her how many puppies she had each year, she refused to answer, again I asked her how many dogs she had again no firm answer. What clubs she belong to and if her dogs were registered and the answer was no. She did not believe in AKC or the other organizations. I told her it sounded like a puppy mill to me and she went on the offense at once. Today a local breeder who raises Jack Russell Terriers has made all the papers and TV news about being a puppy mill, which indeed they were. The couple had somewhere around three hundred Terriers, they probably started out with good intentions but the profit from the dogs got into the way of common sense. Anyway this local breeder of mixed breeds went on to tell the class what she determined to be a puppy mill. Please give me your opinions on this. Al ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================