Does anyone on the List use the Volhard Puppy Aptitude Test to evaluate puppies before placing them? We use it routinely with our Companion Quality puppies to try to improve the odds of a good match. We have also used it with our Show Quality puppies to try to get yet another indicator as to whether a puppy is a good Show prospect. We give the test at 7 weeks, per the Monks of New Skete (The Art of Raising A Puppy). The test is given in a room where the puppies have not been, done by a stranger to the puppies. We do the test 2 hours after they have last eaten and hopefully finished doing their business. We keep distractions such as TV, music, the other dogs' barking, visits from friends, etc., to a minimum. We have found in about 40% of the tests, the results don't square with our obwervations of the puppies' persosnalities, and don't seem to be a reliable predictor of the puppies' future behaviour. We don't use this as the sole indicator of the puppies' temperaments, and we use the "puppy notes" and other general observations, as well as our take on the buyer, along with the VPAT results when deciding on placing (or not placing) a puppy with a prospective owner. Have any of the Listers who use the VPAT noticed similar results which don't seem to square with the actual temperament? Also, we sometimes get reactions from the puppies which are not covered in the scoring table shown in The Art of Raising a Puppy, and we are unsure of how to classify these actions. Has this happened to others who use this Test? TIA for any info. Steve ===== Visit Two Feathers German Shepherds online at http://www.wmj1944.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================