Wow Peggy, dog bite you this morning. My queston was not about the spelling of the word, which has been debated b4 on this list. and both terms describe the same physical component of the rib-cage and are likely both used interchangebly at least by herding breeders. none the less the spelling detracts from the discussion. regards, M ----- Original Message ----- From: "pmick12" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: wynsum@xxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:04:28 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Prosternum in bugs - Posternum in Mammals OK here we go again. Â Â Rather than using a book meant for humans, I suggest some of you obtain a copy of Harry Spira's book...CANINE TERMINOLOGY Â Â -- Â (Dr. Harold R. Spira)....published in this country by Howell Book House and now in its umpeenth printing... Dr. Spira was, until his death in 1991, a world-reknown expert in canine matters...not just health, but also judging. On page 110, he defines the PROSTERNUM... "that portion of the breast bone that projects beyond the point of the shoulder when seen in profile, e.g., Dachshund..." and he refers to figures 11, 193, and 288 (which are in his book, also). Â Â So stop the arguing...Randy was correct. Â At least among knowledgeable dog people...........not human medical techs, etc. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doc Zoe" <wynsum@xxxxxxx> > Jodi is correct. PROSTERNUM > > Using Gray's Anatomy - the BIBLE of MEDICAL ANATOMY. Â I went back to check > because it > has been 30 years since I graduated. > > You have PRE and POST STERUM areas of the Sternum > > The word PROSTERNUM refers only to INSECTS, not MAMMALS (dogs, humans, > hroses) > > Just because people are mis-using prosterum, does not make it correct. > Sorry Randy. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. Â All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================