Diane wrote: litter announcement is a subtle advertisement that puppies MAY BE available if you're interested. It's less subtle if it includes information like "this litter is a repeat of Fluff, who placed first in his class at Mount Joy obedience school". I reply: --> Actually litter announcements on this list are supposed to only includ= =3D e the following: Sire and Dam , number of pups, colors, date of whelp and gender. Anything else is supposed to be saved for inclusion on the litterbox page.= =3D There you can say anything you want except for PRICE. --> As for bragging, that also tells us who won under which judge. Promot= =3D ion is secondary. It is quite another thing to say, the My Stud DOg, my friend's stud dog is= =3D standing at stud with JOHN DOE in ANY STATE USA - that is advertising. It is also one thing to say: I bred to GERMAN DOG ARF ARF with a line Bred= =3D (BARK BARK LINE) Bitch and this is what I got. Upon breeding the progeny back to Ame= =3D rican Lines MEOW MEOW MEOW THis is what I got. THis is discussion of out crossing. This i= =3D s interesting. People can then research the particular dog used. No need to advertise hi= m on the list. NOT AN ADMIN POST BUT A PERSONAL OPINION Dr Zo=EB M Backman http://wynsumgsd.com Support Your Vets and POW/MIAs ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================