In a message dated 1/31/12 8:21:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: Before you can allow the whites to be able to compete and win the award , don't you think that the policies and procedures need to be amended since they currently eliminate all disqualifying faults except Spayed/neutered dogs as stated in the P&P which refers to the AKC Standard? First of all, the Policy and Proceedure Manual is nothing other than a history of what has been voted on, and put in place by your board. It was never meant to be and is not a guide of what the club must do. We are governed by our Constitution and By-Laws, and the state of New York laws for a corporation, not by the Policy and Proceedure Manual. In the Manual you will see things changed by votes as the club progresses over the year years. It is more a guide and a history of our club than a requirement of how we must act. We, The German Shepherd Dog Club of America can set any standards we like for the awards we give out. The obedience Victor and Victrix is not an AKC award, therefore our Parent Club sets the rules. I was involved when the board voted to have the top scoring dog be checked for a disqualifying fault. I disagreed with it, but lost that fight. I was asked one year at the National as an AKC judge to check a winner for disqualifying faults. Now, it seems that if the dog has the ability, the owner has the energy and the two come together to win, they will be recognized. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================