One thing that must be present it Sound Temperament.? I think that winning is GREAT, but if you develop your kennel on a bloodline that isn't sound, what good is it.? Ahhh, when I think back of my Ch. Sweet Sunshine, ROM- the foundation here... I wish more people could have seen her and appreciated her mind.? I just had someone offer me a Free female for "breeding".? I looked at her and she was timid.? She darted out the kennel and refused to approach me.? I had to go into my sermon, all about why this special dog of someone else should just be a pet, but one that needs tons of socialization if they ever do place her as someone else's dog.?? It's sad tho, that the thought even was there from anyone to breed this problem. Beauty is also in the eye of the Breeder, as well.? Some people thru the years have "done their own thing".? Those are usually the ones that will be in this breed forever.? Breed a litter because it is something that YOU are looking forward to, as YOU must love what you are showing, training, feeding, Loving day in and day out, NOT the Judge.?? Tari Kridler Home of 2003 GVx Ch.Kridler's Ruby ROM & 2xSel. Ch. Kridler's Quno & Kridler's K9-11 GSD Rescue@ http://www.kridlersgermanshepherds.com WEBSITE: www.showgsds4sale.com for Advertising Show Quality GSD's for Free. -----Original Message----- From: Denise Williams <denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 5:35 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: It should be about more than just winning Thanks, Ed. Showing or not, wining or not, I will always have german shepherds. I always have. And as long as I am able, I will show, because I just like to complete. The odds are at some point I will win. Or at least I will own some very beautiful dogs. Denise W. http://sabianshepherds.tripod.com for show and performance *join my site ring* ________________________________ From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:52:10 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] It should be about more than just winning That's easy for ME to say since I don't do any winning. But if winning were the only thing, others and myself would have been long gone. And for some who needed to win and didn't they ARE gone. Last week I enjoyed all the post about bitchy heads on males at the national and all the other things "incorrect" about some of our show dogs. I read all the posts about pedigrees and breeding and what you should and shouldn't do. I thought for a second "Gee, maybe I'll keep my imperfect dog home and wait until I get a "perfect" one...then the logical side of my brain kicked in and reminded me that the standard is a MYTH, or in better words a goal that can not be obtained. Breeding and showing conformation German Shepherd Dogs is NOT relevant to what ails our society as we know it. It's just one of millions of activities that Humans do to compete with and interact with each other. During a field trip a few weeks ago one of my student's parents asked me why I continued to wear my Raider hat and support a team the is clearly dysfunctional and hasn't had a winning record in years...I told him that being a Raider fan for 41 years is part of who I am...I will ALWAYS be a RAIDER FAN.......German Shepherds are part of who we are...winning is NOT the most important thing....well at least for me it isn't...Today the Denver Broncos will kick our butts....lol....but life is STILL good....Ed Hill ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================