Ken, Thank you for the reply as to how you would deal with this situation. regards, Bill ----- Original Message ---- From: Ken and Pat Downing <abraxaskp@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:18:30 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: President Candidate Question? Bill: I would like to respond to your question posed to both Gail and myself as Presidential candidates. I would also like to ask that all members review Article V The Club Year, Voting, Nominations, Elections. I feel strongly that any actions taken must be in accordance with the By Laws. I am concerned about any attempt to circumvent the By Laws. There are only two ways that can be done: through the courts and by amending the By Laws (which takes 2/3 majority approval of the members). Once you start violating or circumventing the By Laws it becomes a slippery slope and sets precedent. The By laws are very specific regarding the time frame for the ballots to be received by the Election Service. At this point we have approximately three weeks for that to occur. I believe that all the ballots that are received by the Election Service should be counted. Any returned to sender ballots should be authorized to be placed in a different envelope and sent directly to the ballot company. EVERY ballot received, no matter how they arrive, should be counted. The directions that have been given are so confusing that it would be simpler to allow plain envelopes and those should be sent to the ballot company immediately. Additionally, the Election Service Company should have been aware of the changes that the U. S. Postal service made to the mailing procedures in August. Therefore, they should bear the expenses of notification about the problem to every member, mailing procedure and do whatever it takes to get all the ballots counted within the proper time frame. This appears to be the fault of the Election Service Company!! If they are unwilling to bear this expense, then the club must. I hope this answers your question. Warmest regards, Ken Downing GSDCA President Candidates(Gail and Ken), This ballot issue is a real world problem. As some insight(albeit miniscule) into your problem solving, logical reasoning and understanding of due process. How would you suggest we solve this problem? Since process is as important as the end solution(so that our bylaws are not compromised), please discuss the process and the end solution you would suggest www.abraxasgsd.com updated 8/2007 Abraxas Shepherds...The Secret of Success is Consistency of Purpose Members GSDCA,Inc.(Ken 10/78, Patty 4/80) & GSDCA-WDA Safety and Security www.lockjawsecurity.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================