Terra, What do you call a vet who graduated top of his/ her class, stays up to date on Research and innovative technoloy and procedures, and is open to his/her clientele? Now, what do you call one that barely graduated, stagnant in their continuing education and makes a poor diagnosis? BOTH have the honorarium of "Doctor" ! My point is there good uns and bad ones. A few years back (and on a holiday weekend) i asked a new "repro" vet (note use of quotations) in my area was the cause if my bitch not taking. I implored him to inseminate on day 11 as her 2previous litters had conceived on that date. He flat out refused saying he wanted to see higher surge numbers. I implored him to humour me and do it on that Friday (day 11). He said that HE was the one with the degree in Thierongology (sp) and I was," just a breeder trying to practice vet medicine without a license." He was closed Saturday and on Monday when he came in to do the insemination, her number was back down to a 4. I told him he missed it but whatever.. maybe he knew something that I didn't... nope. I took her back at 28 days to USound and guess what..No Pups!!! As i did more research, there are a lot of vets out there who are anti breeders. They are forever suggesting spaying and nuetering..some at even 7-8 weeks of age. I suggest to trust your instinct and get a new vet. Mike ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================