Ed, you think that's the worst?  LOLOL, the Canadian B.C. National - 10 years ago - membership voted on judges. Boy, you were lucky to have another vote.  The President of the club, or whatever she was, at the time, changed the judge, on her own?? Membership found out 2 weeks later. This is the type of crap that people see and not a very good view of clubs, members or the breed.  Bonnie  ________________________________ From: "edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx" edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx: fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx Cc: RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx; stormy435@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 4:46:46 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Posted for Bob Nieman Terry!....sadly I do not think Brother Bob understands the right to speak out....but I will promise him one thing...as of 1/1/12....no more comments from me publicly about the GSDCA.....what they do will be none of my business...and again I wish them well.....it's like the time about 11 or so years ago I stopped being a member of a local club because after they voted for a judge for the Futurity ,Pat Ayres....but...an influential member of the club did not like that pick.......so against my strong protest..Illeana also protested strongly....they re voted ...this time they got the judge they wanted....many of these folks are still around and a few have even served on the National club BOD....the president of the club at that time, a man I love who is no longer with us, called me a few years later and told me that he was wrong for allowing that second voted....was I a quitter for leaving that club and never returning?.....say what you wish....I play to an audience of one, and I have only one boss......she sleeps in my house with me...Ed Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Cochran" <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> To: RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx, stormy435@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 4:20:28 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Posted for Bob Nieman I believe several people ran by petition this last election. I don't think any of them made it to the board. I do think it is our right to complain as long as we are members. When we choose to no longer be members than the parent club is no longer our concern.� I do believe that one of the board members is of the opinion that we should remain quiet and let the board take care of the club. If my job as a member is to shut up then I don't need to spend 67.00 dollars for that :0) Or donate funds to the club. I am sure that the ones involved can cover all those things. Terry� A penny saved is a penny earned, but a penny withheld is a statement. ________________________________ From: "RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx" <RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx> To: stormy435@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 3:56 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Posted for Bob Nieman In other words Bob keep our damn mouths shut.� Very nice.� Silent� anyone who disagrees with the powers to be.� Very democratic!�  You have just made my point. Randall Chesnut/Houma, La. In a message dated 10/2/2011 5:19:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,� stormy435@xxxxxxxxx writes: Bob� seems to be having problems getting this to the list.. PLEASE do� not� reply to me! Tell ya what for all of you who are gripping about our� leadership gegt� a petition and 25 names submit a bio and hell I'll� vote for you UNTIL� THEN DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE WILLING� TO SERVE Bob Neiman / Walled Lake,� Mich. ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011.� All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.� This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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