I'm a little slow replying to this because my good computer was in the shop and I got set no mail, but I did want to make a few comments, because I feel that Laurie Pruett was being very kind in her post. First of all, I have never been a big breeder, nor have I wanted to be......I never even wanted to breed at all, but did have a two litters due to co-owner committments, one 1992 and my last in 1998. To get to my point, I bred one champion in my first litter and have owned two, being an 'unknown' and with very little showing. But because I had friends who were really into breeding and showing, I allowed myself to be totally consumed with the dog show world for a number of years and always said I would be there unless it wasn't fun. I just loved being in the atmosphere of dogs and friends. Well, a couple of years ago, I became totally disillusioned with lack of commradierie and negative attitudes and completely quit showing and swore that I would never be back. I didn't stop going to some of the local shows or the National, but it was just to visit with a few good friends and because I always love watching the dogs. Don't you know that after not showing for four years, I got a puppy a couple of months ago, and showed him for the first time this weekend. I was really excited to get back out there with a puppy of my own in the ring. At not quite 7 months old, he's stagey, and pretty level and I didn't expect him to win, but I am so in love with this puppy's temperament and overall type that I just entered him to support the local clubs and have some fun. Well, the first two events that Laurie spoke of really didn't bother me. I am so used to the arrogance of this top handler who was at the back of the line and refused to go around for 'another practice round', that I thought nothing of it. That was nothing compared to some of the intimidation I've seen him attempt with judges. Then the second event was obviously an owner/handler who was mad at the judge and took his dog around the ring without a lead and with a toy in her mouth trying to make 'his' opinion known to the judge. It was definitely not proper ring procedure, but the dog never left his side and wasn't out of control....and the judge wrongly awarded him with the Reserve. The third event Laurie spoke about was the one that really upset me because this is a handler who I have always liked, yet this is not the first time I've actually heard him make comments to the judge about another dog during judging that I really felt affected the outcome. This is totally uncalled for and unethical IMO, and what Laurie neglected to mention was that there were people in tears and nasty comments made afterwards. I also heard some negative comments made about a friend's lovely puppy bitch that I was not intended to hear. Again, IMO, the most consistent judging was done at Androscoggin's show. I never understand it when a judge has very similar dogs to judge, and then rewards apples and oranges in the Winners' class. To make this clear, WD from the previous two shows had finished and was not in contention. That was not a factor, and IMO he was deserving of his wins. Anyway, I am not a 'newbie' by any means, and once again, I walked away thinking.....'If it's not fun, why would anyone want to spend their money doing this.....especially in this poor economy.' And why on earth would anyone want to spend all their time and effort into even putting on a show when you're not appreciated. We have already lost a number of specialties in the NE. THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE.....I haven't kept up with the point schedule and I was aghast to see how low it's gotten and now I don't wonder why....if my puppy's rear never drops, I couldn't care less. Wendy Luba Cheeryo GSD's ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================