[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Points to Ponder

  • From: myjoygs@xxxxxxx
  • To: fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx, jillkrzyzak@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:56:22 -0400

my nephew would squeeze in the crate with the dogs and if the crate is empty it 
is a great toy for kids to play house in, comes in handy for all kinds of 
things! ; )

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>
To: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx; jillkrzyzak@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 1:49 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Points to Ponder



I didn't know there could be kids without dogs :0)  When I took care of Alex, 
my 
grandson, I would crate the dogs to eat their diner and Alex would want his 
diner in a crate too:0) What the heck, why not? Kept him focused on eating.
  Terry
InquestGSD@xxxxxxx wrote:
  
Jill Krzyzak wrote: I've been reading many of the 
posts recently and I'm appalled at the lack of tolerance from people on this 
list. The "It's my way or no way" attitude that seems so prevalent is 
unsettling. Whether anyone reads this or not, so be it, but I feel the need to 
vent 
about some things:
1. I've been involved in raising, training and showing dogs for over 20 
years. I started in Obedience and Agility training and showing other people's 
dogs long before I got my first dog (Bichon Frise when I was 16). Before I 
graduated from high school that Bichon made it to #3 Bichon in the country in 
Obedience. In college I got to know Sherry Nolan (who got me started in showing 
GSDs - THANK YOU Sherry) and had the great pleasure of working for Sherry and 
with her fantastic dogs. I have an 8 1/2 year old R-Man daughter that I am 
losing to cancer. Even before I knew my girl was sick I had started looking at 
getting a new GSD puppy. A puppy that she could help me train, to learn her 
good habits and manners. I started looking at litter announcements on the List 
as Sherry had decided not to do any more breeding. Then a thread started on 
the List about selling puppies to people and exactly whom people would NEVER 
sell/give a puppy to. Many of the people on
this list professed to NEVER give a puppy to anyone with young children. I 
was appalled that so many breeders wouldn't even consider giving a puppy to a 
family with young children based on one bad experience they had (and in a 
couple of cases, they had made this determination based on one experience some 
friend of theirs had). I have a 3 year old son and a 1 year old son. My boys 
have been and will be raised around animals. They are learning to be 
respectful, gentle, humane, etc. I can give stellar vet references and 
references from 
many well known people in the GSD community but that would mean nothing to 
these people because I happen to have small children. Many went so far as to 
profess that they would never make an exception to their own rule. 

2. This recent discussion about house dogs vs kennel dogs is all well and 
good but it's gone too far. This attitude that it's so horrible to have dogs in 
kennels is so closed minded. What would happen to some of you that have only 
a couple of dogs in the house but still have litters every once in a while. 
Lets say that half of your last litter was returned to you all around the same 
time frame and you were unable to find homes for all those dogs right away. 
What would you do? Would you keep them until you could find homes? Tell the 
owners to call a rescue group? Tell them to dump the dogs to rot in a shelter 
because you couldn't house them? If you did keep them, what would you do with 
them? Crate them all, all day long if you have to work? Isn't that just as 
bad as having them in a kennel? At least in a kennel run they have freedom of 
movement, they can get up and walk, they can potty if they need to and not 
have to lay in it the rest of the day.
Sometimes what we don't like is still a much better alternative than most of 
the other possibilities. 
Jill




Hi Jill

The first red flag for me when I meet anyone is when they use the phrase 
"I'll never..".......Either they haven't had enough experiences or they are too 
rigid for me to deal with.

All my dogs are crate trained, kennel trained, couch trained, bed trained 
and potty trained. They are car trained, and Dexter prefers my husband BMW to 
the Van.........that punk!

Since I haven't perfected that "walking on water" deal.......I am not 
perfect. Neither are they. So a dog having a bad day may need to go to a crate. 
Just recently, we had a plumbing disaster, and they had to be crated while 
repairs and cleanup got done. They prefer the couch, or my bed (they don't 
think I know they jump on my bed when I am not home......LOL).

My kids were raised with dogs all around, and I am convinced they were 
better off because of it. I wish I had a puppy for you to consider, but I 
don't. 

But if anyone wants to know about dogs and kids, I'll be happy to talk to 
them about our experiences.

One thing I can tell you for sure.......there is always a dog waiting for 
their perfect home. Keep looking.

And brace yourself for the "food wars"............lol

Ileana






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