[ SHOWGSD-L ] Pick your poison
- From: "myjoygs@xxxxxxx" <myjoygs@xxxxxxx>
- To: caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:10:26 -0500 (EST)
I believe environment has a lot to do with bloat as well. What about scenarios
where the dog has been away from home (for showing, training, stud etc) some
dogs are laid back enough and take everything in stride and then there are dogs
that do not. I think there are a lot of factors, stress, genetics, food, etc.
I know a story where a dog was at a handlers for months for showing, the owners
happen to be in town and visited then left and the dog bloated and died.. to me
that clearly is stress related, like any health issue some can lie dormant and
be triggered by something. Breeding is a crap shoot you never know what your
going to get health wise, every line has something, its like pick your poison.
Know your lines well and what lies in them and try not to double up, which is
hard because some won't disclose what they have experienced in their lines.
How can a breeder make an informed breeding decision without having all the
facts. A majority of our dogs we breed go to pet homes who are loved and
spoiled and the heart ache that these pet owners experience when their pet
becomes tragically ill and they spend thousands to save their beloved dog. Or
how many of us have had that special show dog and it bloats, torsions or a
litter that we have to put down, innocent puppies, because of mega, its
heartbreaking. We have to do the best we can and be well informed of what is
in our lines and those we breed to and try not to double or triple up on it, I
think it an eye opener when you go to breed your bitch and look around for
something to breed to and notice that the gene pool is getting very very small
trying to find something that is relatively free of health issues. Ideally
breed to lines that are free of health issues, sadly if we did that today,
there would be no litters and eventually no german shepherds, what is the
solution? JMHO
Joyce
-----Original Message-----
From: Cyndi Flautt <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'gsd list' <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Jan 2, 2011 1:07 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] ] Re: What is going on?
irst of all, IMO, everything is part genetics and part environment!!
othing like a simple explanation....the KISS factor!!
Here's a question...Was there bloat in dogs back before kibble was invented?
f the answer is yes, was it as frequent?
Another question.... do generally all breeds/lines of horses colic?
googled colic in horses, below is what I got...There was nothing on that
ite about it being heriditary.....It's kind of interesting when you compare
hat we know/read about bloat in dogs and what can cause colic in horses...
Cyndi Flautt
ww.carettigsd.com
Colic
hat It Is
term used to describe a large range of abdominal discomforts, colic can be
nything from a twisted intestine to an enterolith to worm infestations.
olic is the #1 natural killer of horses.
ommon Causes
olic can be caused by many things. Here are some common causes:
Sand Colic: When horses ingest sand. Horses that are fed on sandy ground or
ave access to it may eat small bits of sand. Over time, the sand will build
p in the intestines and eventually cause discomfort. The horse may be
arrying 30-80 pounds before showing signs of colic.
ver feeding: If a horse breaks into the feed area and gorges itself colic
ould result.
arasitism: Worm infestations disrupt circulation in the intestines, or
lood clots and bits of dead worms may cause blockages.
rregular Feed Schedule: This may cause a horse to wolf feed if he gets
eally hungry. Feeding right after work or if horse is still hot also can
ause horse to come down with colic.
udden Changes in Feed: When you change feeds, or introduce new feed, be
ure you do so slowly!
ad Feed: Moldy or rotten feed may cause colic.
ngestion of Non-feed materials: Stones, sticks, twine, and wood splinters
re examples. Cribbers or horses that chew wood have a risk of swallowing
its and getting colic.
ine Grain: Sometimes it will pack together and cause blockages in the
ntestine.
oisons: Some poisons may cause colic. Moldy feed may cause mold poisoning
nd colic.
wisted Intestines: Very severe and life-threatening. There are different
ypes of twists in different areas, and they each have names. Here are a
ew:
trangulation: When parts of intestine become entangled in tears in the
upportive membrane.
ncarceration: Intestine is caught in inguinal ring of male horses, and
lood supply is cut off by twisting.
ntussusception: One part of the intestine falls into the other. More common
n foals than older horses.
ost colics can be classified as one of these 3 types:
ntestinal Dysfunction
he horse's digestive tract is not working properly. Impaction, paralysis,
nd excessive gas are examples. This type is the most common.
ntestinal Accidents
his is where the intestines are injured or torn, and are less common than
he type mentioned above, but usually require emergency surgery.
Enteritis or Ulcerations
his is a colic caused by infections, inflammations, and disease in the
ntestine, which can be caused by many factors, such as parasites and
tress.
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