[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Personality determined before birth?
- From: grnram415@xxxxxxx
- To: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx, uwish@xxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:43:41 -0500
Ann,
I cannot agree that Stephanie's personality was environmental as a singleton
pup.? Charm had a singleton pup via c-section.? He is a gorgeous coat.? He was
also a sweetie tho he was spoiled rotten from birth.? Not only spoiled by the
humans but the other dogs doted on him.? He was weaned early as Charm just did
not produce enough milk.? I didn't place him until he was 8 mos old.? He is
now?5 yrs old.? He has been an excellent companion to his owner, her grandkids
and all the?doggy?visitors.? Had Alpha been in his genetics, he may have turned
out differently.? He?sure had the opportunity to take advantage of being an
only?with everyone loving him so much.? But, he was just a sweet natured boy
and that has still true, years later.? He was even a?Top 100 (of 2000 entries)
Cutest Dog in the Orange County Register.??????
Then, there is Charm's second litter of 8 pups.? I kept 2 girls, trying to
decide which I would breed.??One girl is?high drive?and doesn't know when to
quit.? Charm wanted nothing to do with her after they were weaned.? This
girl?is Alpha.? The other pup is submissive to her Mom.? They play hard and
Melody tests her Mom but more for fun than anything.??Charm tolerates so much
from her that it continues to amaze me.? But, Melody never pushes the issue.?
She KNOWS where the line is and has no desire to cross it.? This
mother/daughter team are house dogs and I never worry about a fight.? They have
the hierarchy thing down.? Oh, Melody is 3-`/2 years old now.? Stephanie may be
like?my first girl who didn't know when to quit.? She's full of herself and
wants everyone to know it.? That's not a bad thing, especially if you want to
show her :-)????
Environment and training may help or change a situation but I do believe the
personality really is determined in the womb and we have to work with what we
get in the best way we can.? I could write a book about that concept from
dealing with multiple breeds but this is really just my opinion.
Laura Thomas??????????
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From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: uwish@xxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 7:32 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Personality determined before birth?
Barbara, a big part of personality can also be enviromental. Have you even
dealt
with an only or a hand raised puppy. They do not have respect for authority.
MeMe had an only puppy, Stephanie, and she terrorizes her mother at 5 months.
Of
course, I never saw MeMe discipline her in her first 5 weeks either. Her
handler is going to be in for a real treat . Ann
Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I realize that much of a dog's
personality is hereditary and some of it
can be environmental. If you have the time to study this breed and
really watch their personalities, one might be amazed at what you see in
the whelping box. Sometimes what you see in the whelping box will
determine how they will be as adults. I will use my last small litter
as an example. My girl only had two bitches. The first born was fresh
and "alpha" from the time she was about 2 1/2 weeks old. I've
mentioned this to the List one other time, but I've never seen this on
a puppy before. She was snarling and raising her lip at her mother
already. She had no teeth, and barely had her eyes open yet. Her
mother used to whine when she behaved like this and would nudge her with
her nose. She was "bad to the bone" from the beginning. Nothing has
changed. She's still an alpha bitch and her and her mother never leave
one another alone. I think she has tremendous prey drive as she loves
to attack my broom when I'm sweeping off the back deck and "man oh man,
she never lets it go." She thinks it's a game and loves to attack it,
but just try getting her to let it go. She'd probably have a ball
grabbing one of those sleeves they use for attack work. Her sister was
a "chow hound" from the time I removed the sac from her head. She let
out a HUGE scream and when I put her on her mother, she was a greedy
little thing and nursed voraciously like there was no tomorrow. To this
day, she loves her food and when I give them treats, and if I throw it
to them, she nearly knocks everyone else out of the way in her quest to
get it. Most of the time she gets hers and everyone else's. She no
sooner jumps up catching a treat, spins around and lets out a scream
looking for the next treat. She's afraid she's missing something I
suppose. What a hog she is! She'd make a great Frisbee catcher, if it
were sprayed down with food flavoring. Otherwise, she wouldn't show an
interest in it. Has anyone else noticed these things that puppies do in
the whelping box that they continue to do as adults? Best, Barbara
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