Nor do you drink. Gosh, Evan, do you have any vices other than Tedi ? Carolyn ________________________________ From: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:10 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Personal experience When I judge a show, I know everyone there. When I went on the board, I asked Joan Fox if it was any advantage to be on the board with so many judges? She told me that after sitting as a board member, there was so much disagreement, she felt she was reluctant to show under the other board members. I found that to be true. You can do nothing about honesty or dishonesty. I don't care one way or the other who is the owner, breeder, handler, or if the owner is a judge. I just try to see what animal meets the standard. No one seems to get mad at me, or at least they don't say so to my face. I have ended up putting up people I like, and at times some not so much. I know I have told someone never to bring a certain dog to me. He did, and I ended up giving him points. Judging does not make you money. It does not gain you fame or anything else of value. It takes your time, costs you money, and you have to disappoint a number of people. Why would anyone do it, if not for the love of the breed and a service to the club? A man or woman is honest or not. If he is a judge or an exhibitor, it would make no difference. If someone offered me $10,000 to put up their dog, I might have to think about it. If they offered me $1,000,000 I would not think about it at all. So far, no one has even ever offered to buy me lunch. Knowing who is showing, hanging with them, drinking with them, or sleeping with them makes no difference in most judge's decisions. Or, at least that is what I have found after 40 years at this. And, so you don't have to ask, no, I have never slept with any exhibitor except Tedi, and she doesn't show under me. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 9/23/13 10:15:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gsdworkingline@xxxxxxxxx writes: As a new person looking in from the outside, it seems weird to me that board members, judges, and breeders all intermingle with their dogs. How does that not create a conflict of interest? The circle is so small that they must all become interconnected. With human nature, how does one avoid creating a conflict of interest? ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================