[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Personal experience
- From: Sarah Minsk <gsdworkingline@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Pam Stoesser <pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:43:00 -0400
I have seen more than once a judge put up a dog that was timid; tucking tail;
shying away from judge contact...in all cases the dog was handled by well known
handler. Don't know enough about who is who in breeders to say if that could
have been a factor. This stuff REALLY sours me.
Sarah
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:35 PM, "Pam Stoesser" <pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Perhaps less a âpersonal biasâ than a personal evaluation of the severity
> of faults? Our breed Standard lists 16 faults and classifies them by
> severity (see below).
>
> I think that while good judges will get the good dogs up front, they may
> differ in their placement because (remember that there are no perfect dogs)
> of their evaluation of the faults of the dog compared to the Standard.
>
> Ours is a breed that should be efficient in motion, not extreme in motion.
> Faults of gait are very tiring for the animal and today are often covered up
> with conditioning.
>
> This does NOT mean that the judge should primarily judge based on faults.
> The dog should be judged first and foremost on positive conformance to the
> Standard but in placing the dogs, evaluation of the faults relative to the
> breed Standard must be considered.
>
> Disqualifications:
> Cropped or hanging ears
> Dogs with noses not predominantly black
> Undershot jaw
> Docked tail
> White dogs.
> Any dog that attempts to bite the judge
>
> Very Serious Faults:
> Deficiencies of character, i.e. shyness, tailtucking, nervousness, timidity
> Faults of gait whether viewed from the front, rear, or side
>
> Serious Faults:
> Missing teeth other than the first premolars
> Pale, washed-out colors and blues & livers
>
> Faults:
> Unlevel topline (withers lower than hips)
> Crabwise locomotion with dogâs body sideways out of normal straight line
> Overshot jaw or level bite
> Undue length between the last rib & the thigh
> Tail hooked to the side to the extent it mars general appearance
> Soft, silky, too long outer coat or woolly, curly, or open coat
>
> Just my opinion, Pam
>
>
> From: Laura Havis
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:49 PM
> To: gsdworkingline@xxxxxxxxx ; d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Personal experience
>
>
> Sarah,
>
> Yes, there are plenty of rules. But as with any sport, hobby, profession,
> rules are made to be broken. Unfortunately, I think you may be
> overanalyzing dog shows. Conformation judging is subjective. We have a
> standard, and most of the dogs in the AB/Specialty ring fit the standard.
> However, the judges still have biases. If your serious about showing dogs,
> you can't be faint of heart. Not everyone will like your dog. Remember,
> everyone who has a dog in the ring, thinks they have a winner.
>
> I've always shown my own dogs (with two exceptions) and do so because I
> enjoy it. I don't always win. Heck, I loose more that win. But, that
> doesn't stop me. I do it for fun! Jump in and try it. If you don't like
> it, change your venue. Conformation is not for everyone!
>
> Laura
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