Crooks and idiots exist in every professsion! But to put a label on all the all-breed judges, which I'm guessing your were that day, is wrong. Had you been the best in show judge, and put up the GSD, would that make it a "non-worthy" win? Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:54 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Personal experience In a message dated 9/23/13 8:44:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: It just irks me that people have the nerve to talk badly about the all-breed shows, the all-breed judges, and the all-breed dogs when they're at the shows competing with their dogs. What does that make their dogs? POS's like all the other all-breed dogs. And when they win, is that not a "worthy" win. They sure act excited when they get the points. I judged an all-breed show. The night before I was to judge I was at a dinner for all the judges. One of them told me that if I put up the same German shepherd that won that day, he would give him the group tomorrow. He then turned to the Best in Show judge for the next day, and confirmed he would put the shepherd up for BIS if we did that. I then had breakfast the next day with another BIS judge. He asked me if Leroy Brown was a good dog, because he had given him a BIS, but since I was a shepherd person, he wanted my opinion. He knew that Jimmy must have had a good dog, so he gave him BIS. Now, I know that is but one example, but it sure stuck with me. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================