Those who show dogs who chronically lose find the word "crooked" creeping into their vocabulary early in their career. More than likely the breeder who sold them this dog has trained them to believe that their dog is superb, and any loss is definitely the judge's fault. Frankly, that's the coward's way out. It is not until you have good dogs that you are qualified to witness "crooked". And then when you do have good dogs, your friends who used to gather 'round commisserating over the corruption don't speak to you anymore. :) I witnessed it once or twice. Before the show, one of the exhibitors (a judge) walked up to THE judge and told him point blank her dog needed to win, and to go Best of Winners to get the major to finish his championship. THE judge winked at the exhibitor. I know this because I was standing there with the two of them. I suppose at the time they did not think I knew enough to know what was going on. So what happened? The dog went Best of Winners over what went on to be a Select bitch, and beat a future Select male as well. The dog who won was never to be heard from again. Whether there was intentional corruption or this dog was actually the best dog in the judge's eyes...who knows? But was there a perception of corruption??? Damn straight! This is how rumors get started. The second time the judge put up a huge nine year old brood bitch. I know of six litters this bitch had whelped, there could be more. Her teats were sagging halfway to the ground, her pasterns were broken down, and she was so overweight!!! And she won a major from the Bred By class, and went BOW over a very nice male. Now tell me how that happens when you have twenty something other bitches there? Did I mention the judge owned one of her daughters? :) So, judges, the lesson is that perception is reality...please be cognizant of what you say and do. Cyndy _________________________________________________________________ Add photos, news, and blogs about the World Cup to your Live.com homepage! http://www.live.com/getstarted ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================