Ignored,alienated, and > ostracized ? That describes the way a majority of the world population > feels.That's why so many psychiatrists,counselors,and ministers make a > handsome living.> tom elkins Well said Tom.... Although I don't remember the 'handsome living' part! <G> So, here are my suggestion for being a more user friendly group..... 1. When your dog is in the ring and you are doubling and someone comes up to talk to you, stop what you are doing (doubling), turn to face the person and listen, then respond with a smile and encouraging words. If your dog stops at the corner to see what you are talking about, tell your handler to wait for just a few minutes while you conclude your conversation. 2. While grooming for the next class, similarly, be sure to engage in conversation freely and should it go on beyond the start of your class, ask the judge to wait while you conclude what you are doing. 3. Should your dog be in front of another dog and the owner of the other dog looks disappointed, be sure to ask the judge to move your dog back so the other exhibitor will feel good about entering and will come back. 4. And judges - this is your problem too. You have to stop picking the dogs of the more successful breeders who have learned what they are doing by years of tough trial and error. Pick enough dogs that are not star quality so we make others feel included. And I could go on.... but the point is, this is a highly competative sport and no one enters hoping to loose. When the show begins, the exhibitors focus hones in on their dog, as it should and they may not even hear what is being said to them. I tried talking to my grandson when he was going out for a pass in the championship football game! Forget it! There are two sides to this equasion - Our being legitimately friendly and receptive (which I believe most are) and the new person being sensative to the nature of the game and the focus of the competition. I love you man, but you can't have my beer (substitute ribbon!). Dave ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================