I agree with Sally, I had a Pem and they do not think they are small at all. Mine ruled the shepherds. Everything Sally said about the cardis but the wagging tail, however, the Pem's little stub is constantly going ; ) MYJOY SHEPHERDS Joyce Willis -----Original Message----- From: Sally Hayden <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx> To: Showlist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, Jul 4, 2013 5:58 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Pems/cardis I think both pems and cardis are great dogs but they really are not small dogs nd don't ever try to tell them they are. I can't speak for pems since. I have ever lived with them Tru and Liz do not know a stranger and absolutely love kids. They are terrific lert dogs they hear and see everything. I think if need be they would defend e. They both live in the house and and know and anticipate my every move. uper intelligent. Liz is a hoot in obedience does everything with her tail agging. They definitely are dogs who need a job Only complaint is they shed like a shepherd Sent from my iPad ally Hayden ===========================================================================OST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================