There is another list for pancreatic insufficiency. It is K9-Epiglobal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Like this list, you need to apply for membership, but it has a wealth of information regarding the disease and it is where I learned that you can use Pancreatin, which is a generic version of Viokase, for a much lesser cost. They also explain about how prone EPI dogs are to SIBO (small intenstinal bacterial overgrowth) and how to treat it. (Many vets don't treat long enough, and this can be the cause for continued loose stools) I have also been ordering mine by the kilo from epi-enzymes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, which is a part of the above list and they straightened my boy out immediately. These enzymes are manufactured by American Labs and the breakdown on them is as follows: Pancreatin 6X Pancreatin 8X -- compared to Viokase Lipase 93,240 usp 145,880 usp 71,400 Protease 456,400 " 582,400 " 388,000 Amylase 518,000 " 638,400 " 460,000 You can also order directly from American Labs (800-445-5989), but I believe you have to order 5 kilos at a time, however, that makes it really economical per kilo, but is a lot of $$ up front. I also have just bought Pancreatin 8x in capsule form from Vitacost.com. It has 36,000 usp of Lipase and 200,000 usps of both Protease & Amylase. I have not tried it as yet, but it is $8.92/bottle of 100 caps, and I figure I should be able to get by on 3 per meal. If you need more info, feel free to contact me. Wendy Luba Cheeryo GSDs, Antrim, NH ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================