Great points and I find these posts to be true. Pacing appears to be a "resting" gait at a slow speed. The are not thrusting themselves forward at the rate they do at a good steady ground covering trot. At a slow walk........most dogs with any movement have to pace. That was the point of my original post. At a slow walk....the dogs will generally pace and have to be 'picked up' over and over by the handler to stop the pacing..... ( this is what wears them out........NOT the walk ) ........or 'held up' by the handler while the handler walks. <G> This is different than the slow easy TROT on a nice loose leash. Left to their own at that slow WALK.... they will pace. You see it a lot while they are herding as they are slowed down to a walk so as not to push the sheep too hard. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Peggy M To: scotties@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; Show GSD List Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Pacing Well, there are only three reasons...two of them usual are conditioning and conditioning. It is easier for a 4-legged animal to pace than to trot...the trot shows all, which is why it is the preferred gait to judge dogs by.....at least with regard to soundness. Less energy is expended...sounds goofy, but it's true. Conditioning is also the 2nd reason -- because the dog is not muscled up and/or trained enough...he'll pace because it's easier. (I know, I know...it's the same thing said two different ways) Finally, if something hurts when the dog trots, he'll pace to spare himself the pain. So...pacing he won't limp (or you won't see it) and if you make him trot, he'll limp.......Peggy ******************************************************************* I wasn't going to get in on this discussion,but I guess I have to put in my 2cents <G> YOU guys get sick and tired of me telling about what" used to be" . Way back when , at a time that I was spending a lot of time at LongWorth Kennels with Lloyd Brackett and Gin Mc Coy and Gin coming up to my house with bitches to breed to the Cuno dog, WE all had a discussion about Pacing in GSD. Gin and I argued and talked with Lloyd,just like this List does, And Lloyd said something I have always remembered . " It takes a GSD that is well angulated to Pace easily& properly." If the dog is proper in his angulation,he resorts to pacing as a resting gait ( as all of you have noted) ,but it is a smooth pace . Lloyd used to say if he paces ,he's got to be a a good gaiter. As a matter of fact,Lang Skarda said the same thing . Now I'l go back to watching the twin baby deer play in my back yard. Helen Miller Fisher *********************************************************** Giselda & Art wrote: >Why do dogs Pace??? Not only shepherds but I see other dogs do it as well, at my handling classes! Is this laziness or is it genetic? It drives me >crazy! I think it looks ugly! *************************************************************** *I have been told by several people that dogs pace as it is a way of relaxing. Also so they can move at the speed their handler wants.I know handlers really discourage it. It is an ugly gait, even in horses. Doris E* > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giselda & Art" <scotties@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Thanks to everyone for all the information on pacing, always wondered why > dogs do it and I guess everyone has thier own ideas/thoughts/opinions. I > am just as curious as the next guy. > Giselda ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================