Promise Keeper received his TC - Temperment Certificate in Sept of 2010 at 21 months old, then received his TD - Tracking Dog title in October of 2010 at 22 months old, he then went on to go Winners Dog and Select Excellent in October of 2011 just a couple months short of three years old. Kristan www.kcgermanshepherds.com Home of "Tucker" AOE PAM BIS BISS 2x Sel Ex GCh Anne-Isle's Promise Keeper TDX OAP OJP NFP RA TC CGC TDI OFA h/e/t/c On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:56 PM, "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: Is it a dirty little secret that conformation and performance is not the same. If you want to limit performance to conformation dogs, do it. But, then you should also limit conformation to performance dogs. If we take a conformation disqualification, then before we win in conformation we might want to require an obedience degree. I don't know of any Selects who have the performance degree before they go Select. Most if not all of them go Select, then go out and get the performance degree to obtain the AOE. Think of if we want to mix the passions, or is this just a feel-good thing? Not that there would be anything wrong with that. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 10/15/13 11:35:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx writes: So the performance folks do not need to meet the standard set forth by the GSDCA? If that is the case why not award any breed? What is the point of awarding a GSDCA award? just do the standard AKC awards. ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org/ SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================