[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: P.R./ bad backs & rears & color
- From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx, Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 07:50:22 -0700 (PDT)
This contradicts what I have read in some of the gsd books regarding breeding
to
extremes, so I am just asking for some clarification. What I have read is that
breeding to extremes DOES NOT produce an average of the two---that what you get
is some dogs with the extreme rear and some dogs with the mediocre rear. As
someone who would like that middle ground, I would like to hear more on this.
Thanks.
Zoa
Dr. Zoa Rockenstein
www.riverrockshepherds.com
Home of: Ch. RiverRock's Hotel California HSAs CHIC (Callie), RiverRock's
Straight From The Heart PT (Sera), RiverRock's Karla v. Kenlyn, Kenlyn's Nakita
(co-owned with Kent Boyles),
and RiverRock's Heart of the Matter (Luke, co-owned with Martha Simonett)
----- Original Message ----
From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 9:34:39 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: P.R./ bad backs & rears & color
OUTSTANDING POST .
You are right on all counts Christine.
Why is it that we (collective) need black and what is supposed to be red on
ALL of our dogs? What passes for red,
has gotten ridiculous, but that is another subject. Dyeing across AKC
venues in general is way out of hand, really,
not just us.
Anyway, I remember GVX Ruby, almost black and creme...didn't care,
because that is one helluva moving bitch. How about Manny? Wow. I'd have
a kennel full just like him,
and not what you'd call "deeply pigmented"...same for Mary Mary. These
dogs stood on their physical merits,
color was an aside, still should be, unless you start getting into faults.
What I DO love about our dogs is the VARIETY of colors. There is something
to suit everyone.
Your mention of breeding to extremes is also spot on. Not only extreme in
front or rear , but bone, heads, coats etc.,
Nature will gravitate towards the middle generally speaking. You need a
little "holy cow" in there to keep desired attributes.
Kathy
*http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com*<http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/>
*Home of:
CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs
CH. Victory's Leviathan
CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle *
*
"Victory...*Vires et honestas"
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Hickoryhill
<hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Carolyn to this I might add that rich color is certainly preferred but not
> a must. As our standard says " GSD's vary in color.." Also note that maybe
> two sentences are used to describe color, thus giving the impression to the
> reader that color is one of the least things to be concerned about in the
> scheme of things. What "forces" people to dye dogs is the impression that
> SOME judges prefer color over all other traits. If you have a superior
> moving animal and you loose to a lesser because the pigment is "better,"
> either natural or enhanced, then you feel you need to level the playing
> field to be competitive. I am not rationalizing this, or justifying this,
> however it is a grave injustice to place pigment over all other attributes
> espeically when our standard places little importance in it. In other breeds
> chalking, and color enhancement are common. Tattooing is even common to
> create the ideal makrings on the muzzle, in some breeds. Bottom line is that
> color enhancement shouldn't be necessary and never was when I first started
> in this breed..then suddenly and miraculously every dog was "black and red."
> this is what happens when one faction governs the minds of nearly all. And
> people wonder why our entries are so low?????
>
>
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