[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: P.R./ bad backs & rears & color
- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Hickoryhill" <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 07:39:15 -0700
Hi Christine;
While I do not disagree with anything you have said.......I again need to say
that my post was not
about dyeing dogs........my post was about all the bad P.R. about American Bred
dogs being "too
extreme and crippled" with failing "sloping backs" and rears so extreme they
are "crippled".
This is typical rhetoric on many web sites now....
I mention color because you simply cannot deny it is gorgeous when it is so
red. While I believe the
German dogs are 'naturally' red along with beautiful striking facial
markings.....and It is in fact SO
gorgeous that I wonder if the German dogs were just an average black and tan or
cream color or
even a bi-color.......would we be so attracted to them??
Did NO ONE understand what I was saying......? <G>
I must not be articulate enough to get my point across...........so I am giving
it up.
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Hickoryhill To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Kathy Tank ;
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: P.R./ bad backs & rears & color
Carolyn to this I might add that rich color is certainly preferred but not a
must. As our standard says " GSD's vary
in color.." Also note that maybe two sentences are used to describe color,
thus giving the impression to the reader
that color is one of the least things to be concerned about in the scheme of
things. What "forces" people to dye dogs
is the impression that SOME judges prefer color over all other traits. If you
have a superior moving animal and you loose to a lesser because the pigment is
"better," either natural or enhanced, then you feel you need to level the
playing field to be competitive. I am not rationalizing this, or justifying
this, however it is a grave injustice to place pigment over all other
attributes espeically when our standard places little importance in it. In
other breeds chalking, and color enhancement are common. Tattooing is even
common to create the ideal makrings on the muzzle,
in some breeds.
Bottom line is that color enhancement shouldn't be necessary and never was
when I first started in this breed..then suddenly and miraculously every dog
was "black and red." this is what happens when one faction governs the
minds of nearly all. And people wonder why our entries are so low?????
PS.Bad backs are epidemic and are a dominant trait. Once you have them, you
will be forever trying to get rid of them. As for rears..we could use more in
some cases. You breed to extreme to keep balance. No rear bred to no rear
equals even less rear.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: Kathy Tank
<rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>,
I am not talking about German bred dogs being dyed for crying out loud!
They really have beautiful color and markings in my opinion. What I am
saying is that it is their
color and markings that makes them so gorgeous. Possibly IF they were a
common black and
cream or bi color they might not be so strikingly gorgeous? AND.......
I am not starting a German vs. American thread.....nor was that my intent.
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
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From: Kathy Tank To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
I don't think we (not us, but many) as a fancy need to cast stones on
DYEING AND BAD COLORING DO WE???
PULEEZZE, I have seen SO many black and orange , black and salmon , black
and brown American dogs...
Glass houses people....
Until we clean up our acts as a fancy, we are the LAST ones to be talking
about dyeing ANY dogs.
Maybe it is just jealousy that they have mastered it...most of our people
still do an appalling job.
Of course with halloween coming up, many dogs should fit right in....
Potassium permanganate anyone?
Kathy
They have Gorgeous Breed type!!! But at second glance....
SERIOUSLY.....take away that
incredible color and I'm not even so sure about THAT!
Visualize your most favorite photo of a beautiful German dog as a common
black and cream with
hardly any facial markings.....or as a Bi Color, and suddenly they would
not be so appealing.....<G>
They have truly mastered color and facial markings.
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
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