LADIES AND GENTLEMEN: Please read this post and LEARN as I have also YES, we know the importance OF being against BSL -- However, as an oldie I KNOW this post is totally TRUE!! We need to think of the situations in which the human/dog relationships are thrown. I have rehabilitated many dogs of different breeds and mixes in my time! Seriously, I have met a few pits that were hopeless. I worked on an Aussie that was so horrible it would make your hair stand on end. I will NEVER forget the horror in N.O. after that Katrina hurricane and the HUNDREDS of PITS that were in that city. We've, as I mentioned, only passed the law against dog fighting in this state just about 2 years ago. SAD Yes, generally, it IS the owners, but not to ever be forgotten is the original USE of each breed. One thing in Sue's post that hurts me deeply is how our own LIFE SAVING GSDs are looked upon by some of the JQP!! We MUST do MORE to educate and the younger the better as we work with CHILDREN!. I've worked so hard in the LARGE obedience school here and tirelessly with our allbreed club and our own GSD club and more all my born days. I know it is very time consuming, but if we have a goal and stick to it, it'll work somehow. So read Sue's post and if it's ok by her IT SHOULD BE PERMITTED TO BE CROSS POSTED! I rest my case too. ( Yikes, I was going to shut up but this got to me big time, sorry) Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arcturus" <Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "thelist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] PItt Bull problems I don't think you can realize the scoop of the problem with Pitt Bulls unless you have been in an inner city environment and see how the Pitt Bull situation truly is. For what its worth, the past several years I have participated in a therapy dog group with inner city children who have emotional issues. Its been quite enlightening. Some of the time I have used a GSD and other times a Cardi. The children are all familiar with a Pitt Bulls and its not unusual for them to have them in their homes. I've seen quite a few kids with scars from Pitts and its quite common to see people on the street with a Pitt...sometimes at the end of a chain and usually with a studded collar, of course the intent is to impress you with the owners toughness. The problem here is, these people want the "toughest" dog, and of course, they are breeding tough to tough with no thought as to what kind of damage those pups might do. Their reaction to the GSD is always: " Is that a police K9? " I can't remember a kid ever asking me if that was a German Shepherd, its always "police K9'. Ask the kids about the Pitts and they' ll tell you they don't like them. A few of the kids were so scared of dogs that we had to use white Standard poodles ( which look as far removed from Pitt Bulls as you can get) with them. IF the kids have them in their homes, they are not usually allowed to touch the dog ( which makes me wonder why the parents have them?) . I've seen some interesting crosses with Pitts too. Rottweiler-Pitt is fairly common ( which the local humane society will call Lab crosses in an effort to place them) and I've seen some type of mastiff - Pitt cross too. As someone else wrote in and referred to a "slippery slope" where if we allow them to ban Pitt Bulls, next will be Rotts, Dobes, and Shepherds. This is what will cause the slippery slope to start...not banning Pitt Bulls, but the crosses that are being done NOW! If it looks mostly like a Shepherd, but acts like a Pitt Bull its the Shepherd breed that takes the blame. Watch what happens next, the designer dog crazy has taken off. I for one would rather had restrictions on ownership of a Pitt Bull then wait until all large breeds are designated "problems breeds". 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