gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx writes: If you, Peggy/etal , see this as AKC propaganda ( lies ) , and obviously as such do not trust them, will you be registering any pups under them? If so, why? I am assuming you have read the latest bulletins? Paul opines... Propaganda...lies...latest bulletins? I consider it AKC's position on pending legislation. I happen to disagree as do throngs of other knowledgeable dog people...but like Carmen has said...if you disagree you don't always get a divorce. Breeders, handlers who sell dogs, and rescues will be involved and not in a good way. Too many very learned people are writing very learned opinions after reading the proposed legislation that spell such situations out in black and white...not shades of gray. If you believe PAWS is a good thing...support it...but support it with good facts rather than undignified rhetoric. Several of us will be at Jim Holt's Q & A at a local AB show this weekend. I am going armed with specific questions that will help me sort this out. Let me give you a scenario...If you co-bred a litter with your co-owner on their property...went down and made your picks...had a handler broker a sale to his client...you and the handler would all fall under the auspices of the USDA. You would be required to get a USDA license and live up to all of the AWA provisions. You don't need to sell 26 dogs or breed 7 litters. If you raise dogs and birds...breed 2 litters, sell 8 dogs, and 1 bird for $501 you also qualify to be regulated by USDA. PAWS was written with generous help from HSUS as well as other ARO's...but the new twist is...it does contain AKC wording from the failed PPA alternative of 2000. I cannot fathom any relationship between AKC and the ARO's at all. This bill doesn't address puppy mills but it does address you as a hobby breeder. I guess the way it's written it says...if you're a breeder and you don't do it the way PAWS says...you're a puppy mill. If it does pass...the law suits will be endless with the ARO's doing their damnest to lower the 6-25 number and more on changing the definitions as spelled out in PAWS. A supporting position for PAWS is a position to doom breeding and the sport of showing dogs as we know it. Paul ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================