In a message dated 7/31/2005 10:10:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pmick@xxxxxxxxx writes: OOOps! PAWS doesn't say "more than 25 dogs bred on the premises." I was writing two responses at the same time and got that mixed up. What it says is flat out..."sells not more than 25 dogs or cats at wholesale or to the public" with no reference to where those dogs or cats were bred (which is the part that bothers people who co-own and co-breed). The reference to "only dogs or cats bred or raised on the premises of the person directly at retail" refers to the 6 litters. The $500 limit on "other animals" is gross, not profit............ Peggy, just to clarify; If you breed 7 litters (here's your "OR") OR sell 25 dogs you didn't whelp/raise on your premises OR sell $500 worth of other furry friends (non dog/cat) you would need a license under the proposed legislation. ************************* Therefore, (in a rrrreeeeaaaalllyyyy ridiculous example) if I whelp/raise/sell 6 litters AND sell 24 stud fee puppies (OMG!) AND sell $499 worth of ferrets and I would ESCAPE regulation. Now, good, bad or indifferent, let's just at least get the facts straight. And where on earth besides the hysterical e-mails that are flooding all of our e-mail boxes did you get AKC making $$$ off of this? All I saw was Jim Holt "hopeful" that one parties (USDA) inspection would satisfy the other's (AKC) and visa-versa? I don't get a conspiracy out of that. I suppose somebody has to bear the costs of inspections, but the AKC does it now for folks who have over 7 litters, and I always thought they made it up on registration fees. I guess I just thought the USDA would pay for inspections from licensing fees and whatever fines they imposed. Again, I'm not saying it's good, bad or indifferent (I've said for me in PA and many, many locations it's a non-issue because State & local regs are MUCH stricter than the proposed PAWS legislation), but let's at least get the facts correct. All this misinformation and hysteria are like nails on a blackboard to me <G>. Or, as long as we are looking for conspiracies, maybe all the stuff I'm getting from lobbying organizations I've never heard of are attempts from the same to deliberately misinform, stir up emotions and get folks to open their pocketbooks, lol:) Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================