Diane, Did you read the link? It doesn't even mention c-sections (or dew claw removal, or tail docking), and is a bill about veterinarians reporting unethical and immoral behavior (and or abuse of animals) of and by other veterinarians. Now, Julian has bulldogs. The only thing I can even imagine, and it's one hell of a stretch, is that some vets may feel it's "immoral" to breed dogs w/ such gross disproportions that a c-section is absolutely necessary, and maybe they'd have a problem w/ a vet who did it and would report it? Like I said, one hell of a stretch, and I can think of hundreds of things I'd worry about today before that even crossed my mind. I repeat, it doesn't even mention c-sections (emergency OR planned). Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 11/13/2008 1:31:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx writes: how can they mandate that a c-section is not medically necessary? there are instances where it could be life or death for the dam. how frightening is this??? diane Diane Strasser **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================