If you don't use owner-handled dogs - what is the most typical reason - lack of condition? training?, etc? Every curious (and just waiting to hear about the Hunte vote) *The main reason handlers are used is that Shepherds do not show well and move out for their owners, as a rule. Of course, there are exceptions, but for the most part, this is true. Also, there is the old and fat factor. Many Shepherd owners are elderly (moi) and simply do not run any more. Doris E* JessMac ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================