Wonder what my ratio is after 6 kids and 8 grandchildren....I believe I qualify for "overloaded shoulders"! LOLOL..... Dawn Dawn Restuccia, Pres. Last Hope, Safe Haven Donations may be made to: Paypal via windwych@xxxxxxxxx --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Over loaded shoulders To: uwish@xxxxxxxxxx, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 12:02 PM Actually we do still see this in some lines today. These are dogs that have either tighter ligamentation or are over-muscled either through too much distance work or genetically, esp as they mature... that doesn't allow the freedom of motion required for proper movement. Not to be confused with a poor front because of short upper arm and incorrect or too steep lay back of shoulder. Dogs that are over loaded tend to look "bunchy" , many without proper ratios of 8.5 to 10. You can see it easily, and their movement is stilted, and often cumbersome or worse "pitty patting" because it's all they can do. Kathy Tank http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com PUP-DATED: JAN 19, 2008 HOME OF: CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle WE SUPPORT DRUG AND DYE TESTING On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I remember hearing people say this about certain dogs years ago. I > don't hear about it too much anymore. Just what is over loaded > shoulders and what causes it? Barbara > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS > of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author > AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================