That's how it was when I grew up, too, Rebecca... I wonder if there's any pasture land left in Sonoma County. I remember driving over to Sacramento, the beautiful Angus cattle in ?Woodland? with the sparkling white board fences and walnut trees lining the road. But where the developer were taking the horse farms and the cattle ranches to put $1-2 million dollar houses and the suburbs of San Francisco became 50 miles up 101 and .... Well, what do we do to feed our cities. I keep asking that. Can the small farms feed billions of people? Where do the masses in the cities get milk for their children? I eat very little red meat (my choice, but I'll sure have that great hamburger occasionally) but certainly eat animal products, drink milk, eat eggs and fish, and use products made from animals, and when taking medicine, use that which is often derived from animals. We're really off topic, Admin's going to chomp on us soon. S On Mar 21, 2009, at 2:13:07 PM, "Rebecca Little" <pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: It must be rather like cow heaven in this neck of the woods then....mostly small dairy farms with LOTS of pasture.....its the catskill mountains here so quite often farms also have hill pastures so not all the land is suitable for tilling but it sure is for pasture. -- Stormy Hope www.carpoc.org AKC Legislative Liaison, GSDCA Sunshine Squad <showgsd.org/sunshine.html) GSDs and more ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================