YOU may be "sure" as you say, but, my dear, you are DEAD WRONG. I can't "pick judges!" I didn't have a clue who would do what! I am sure that Harley has MANY more losses than Solo does. You have the knowledge and experience to "pick your judges." I didn't have that luxury. On top of it all, you probably obey your handlers. NOBODY tells me what to do!!! Most of my glee and amazement in accomplishing what I have with Harley is that I am a nobody; I am not a breeder; I am not a judge; I have never specialed any dog in my 64 years of life. If any of his wins were political, it may have been because of a specific handler at a specific show, but, I had no prior knowledge nor expectation of any win. Harley has had NUMEROUS handlers. He pretty much wins with whoever handles him. He is a once-in-a-lifetime dog; a quirk, if you will. Granted, I have learned a lot about certain judges over the past two years, but, it is a bit too late to use that knowledge in any "plan." Actually, there are only 2 judges I will never enter under. But, that is pretty much a moot point as I will probably never show a GSD again. Partly thanks to people like you. There was NO plan or strategy. I had a nice dog given to me. He finished fairly easily with 4 or 5 different handlers. I asked a local handler if he thought we could get an invitation to Eukanuba, he said, "let's try" and the rest is history. I entered shows where I thought I would have fun traveling to. I entered local shows. I entered shows where a handler I wanted to work with at the time wanted to go to. Now we are going to Canada for his Canadian Championship. I never heard of any of the judges. I didn't "pick" them, the show giving club did!! Your "Ummmm" crack was insulting and an outright lie. IMHO, your dog is much nicer than you are. And nicer than you deserve. How about some openly published results on his OFA page? Paula, 187 days and counting Home of BIS, BISS, Multi-Group Winning, 2 Time AKC JAM/AOE, Intern'l & Am CH, Silver Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid), 1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 GSD in California, Lifetime #1 GSD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH Stats), 2011 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show Invitee, 2010-2011-Lifetime AKC Eukanuba Invitee. 2 Time Cruft's Invitee. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 06:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Our modern dogs Ummmm....yeah, but we pick our judges and I'm sure Paula did too. Solo for instance finished w/ 2 majors out of 3 from the specialty ring. I would say the judges at those shows weren't ones to take an extreme do to, the type Maryellen is writing about in this month's review. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 4/4/2012 11:17:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 4/4/2012 10:08:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Now, everyone, go put your heads back in the sand and head on out to more specialty shows before they all disappear. And think of the Newbies. They are your future. Amazing. We both know what people say when they see Harley. No laughing there. He finished at specialty shows, he is a specialty dog. Paula just has decided to show at the all-breed shows. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================