I was not going to jump in this, but forgive me, I can't help myself. Historically the Nationals are conformation events. One judge, one opinion. To do more would be the biggest mess. If dogs meet all, or some of, the above criteria add it in front or rear of his name. The GV & GVX should be the best physical example of our breed in accordance with our standard. No more, no less. Randy C. ********************************************************************************* An old friend once said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I completely agree with Randy, but will go once step further. I think our National is a well-thought out, nobly planned happening, put together by the membership's blood, sweat and tears. Why turn it into a complicated mess by additional requirements which might not prove necessary anyway? I OFA all my GSDs--that doesn't mean that Jeddie and Brando, both OFA Excellent, OFA Elbows can't PRODUCE hip and elbow dysplasia. Same with Tabu who is OFA Good, OFA Clear Elbows. The clearances and health certifications that I get are for MY benefit--I want to know that my dogs are fine. Personally, I like the National the way it is, the way it has evolved. Penny ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================