You got me all those fabulous action shots so after telling Gordy about his daughter, I thought I would make a picture for Patty. I think we have another performance prospect in the current litter. I'll let you know in a couple of weeks. Too bad we do not have legs that are 40 years younger!!! You were so right about making that breeding to Harvey. Ruth ________________________________ From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> To: rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx; shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx; cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx; marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:22:23 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society Wow that was fast !!!!! I have to tell you I was a proud co-breeder. Terry www.Fairwayshepherds.com ________________________________ From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> To: fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx; shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx; cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx; marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 12:10:18 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society If you want to see Tory - http://www.fairwayshepherds.com/tory.htm Tory is a German/American cross - both German and American show lines. She was the pup int he litter who had "performance" written all over her even as a young pup. Not all of them did. We did not need to keep another male so we sold her brother to a fabulous companion home but before he left at 6 months we had a Best in Show judge tell us to buy him back and show him. We thought he would be happier as a companion and he has made his retired owner very happy. We spend a lot of time finding owners who will be active with their dogs - not necessarily participate in performance events, but be active in something. Our philosophy has always been to find homes where the dogs get trained in many activities as a trained dog makes for a happy dog and owner and they will get out in public and represent the breed well. That has kept many dogs out of the show ring, but the dogs and their owners are doing a bang-up job representing the breed where it really needs to be represented. Ruth ________________________________ From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> To: shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx; cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx; marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 10:37:46 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society I have been SO Good to stay out of this topic. BUT IF PEOPLE WANT This BREED TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY THEN GET OFF YOUR BUTTS AND TRAIN YOUR DOG. This past week the USDAA championships haved been held here in Scottsdale. You know how many German Shepherds where there??? 1 from Oregon Her name is Tory and she is from my breeding program. Why should the general public take our dogs seriously when we don't. How much public PR is there at the local Specialty shows??? How many public folks show up to see the dogs in the conformation ring? How long do they stay and does anyone take the time (except Evan) to talk to them? This wonderful show had many things that people could do with their dogs. They offered herding instinct testing, Dock dogs and my personal favorite Leur Coursing!!!!! you could pay to have your dog learn all of these sports and yet not one GSD was there. No Tory didn't make it to the finals but we had so many come up and thank us for being there and representing the breed. Before Tory headed back to Oregon with her owners Rick and Patty Bensene, she had learned and master Leur coursing she had 2 silver and 1 bronze metals. She was diving off the tall platform for Dock dogs. The owners had huge smiles and so did Tory. If we are not going to get out there and champion our dogs then who in the hell is??? Where ever we went with Tory people gathered and admired her. Not one person asked if she was American or German no one cared she was just a great dog that loved what she was doing and it showed. We can blame our problems on the AR'ers and it is true they don't make life easier but the only way you can counter them is get your dogs out there and be seen enjoying them!!!! Terry ________________________________ From: MORGAN LEWIS <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx> To: cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx; marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 9:41:19 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society This sounds almost like the discussion we hear about education. Do we lower the STANDARD so that ALL can PASS. I THINK NOT, but that is the way of the public school system, I don't want no AVERAGE DOGS, and GOD knows if mine bit me every time I made a mistake, I would look like mincemeat!! (Now I have caught them laughing at me at times) Morgan and His Angels Precious, OFA Princess, CGC, TDI, GSDCA Health Award "RAW" fed, No Vaccinations --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society To: cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx, marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 11:03 AM First off, let me say I never said "Modify temperament so we can sell to the average idiot". What I did say was that not all puppy buyers are perfect - no matter how much we teach, train and educate. In this society we live in, we need to have dogs that the average person can make a mistake on and not have to worry about a dog becoming a biter or eating the small dog across the street. Things happen in people's lives and we still need dogs that can fit those roles instead of having to be sent to rescue or worse yet, euthanized. These DOGS need to fit in - no ifs/ands/butts. There is a difference between soft and spooky and hence we had a problem with the definition. A dog can be a spook without being soft - no question about it - fearbiters come to mind - those aren't soft dogs - those are dogs with either genetically poor temperaments or undersocialized.. Soft dogs are dogs that don't have the strong prey drive to chase little dogs and nip kids in the back of the legs. Also, I never said we needed to make breeds SOFTER - what I did say is that dogs need to be modified to fit this society - that doesn't mean turning them into wimps! Dogs that allow for few mistakes and don't turn into explosives. Until people get their heads out of the sand, we are constantly going to fight the problem of dogs being biters and that breeds should be banned and eliminated because people are unwilling to make things FIT.. Its about breeder doing public education too.... 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