[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society

  • From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx, shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx, cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx, marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:22:23 -0800 (PST)

Wow that was fast !!!!! I have to tell you I was a proud co-breeder. 
Terry
www.Fairwayshepherds.com



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From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
To: fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx; shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx; cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx; 
marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 12:10:18 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society

If you want to see Tory - http://www.fairwayshepherds.com/tory.htm
Tory is a German/American cross - both German and American show lines. She was 
the pup int he litter who had "performance" written all over her even as a 
young pup. Not all of them did. We did not need to keep another male so we sold 
her brother to a fabulous companion home but before he left at 6 months we had 
a Best in Show judge tell us to buy him back and show him. We thought he would 
be happier as a companion and he has made his retired owner very happy. 

We spend a lot of time finding owners who will be active with their dogs - not 
necessarily participate in performance events, but be active in something. Our 
philosophy has always been to find homes where the dogs get trained in many 
activities as a trained dog makes for a happy dog and owner and they will get 
out in public and represent the breed well. That has kept many dogs out of the 
show ring, but the dogs and their owners are doing a bang-up job representing 
the breed where it really needs to be represented.

Ruth




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From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>
To: shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx; cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx; 
marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 10:37:46 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society

I have been SO Good to stay out of this topic. BUT IF PEOPLE WANT This BREED TO 
BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY THEN GET OFF YOUR BUTTS AND TRAIN YOUR DOG. 
This past week the USDAA championships haved been held here in Scottsdale. You 
know how many German Shepherds where there??? 1 from Oregon Her name is Tory 
and she is from my breeding program.  Why should the general public take our 
dogs seriously when we don't. How much public PR is there at the local 
Specialty shows??? How many public folks show up to see the dogs in the 
conformation ring? How long do they stay and does anyone take the time (except 
Evan) to talk to them? This wonderful show had many things that people could do 
with their dogs. They offered herding instinct testing, Dock dogs and my 
personal favorite Leur Coursing!!!!! you could pay to have your dog learn all 
of these sports and yet not one GSD was there. 

No Tory didn't make it to the finals but we had so many come up and thank us 
for being there and representing the breed. Before Tory headed back to Oregon 
with her owners Rick and Patty Bensene, she had learned and master Leur 
coursing she had 2 silver and 1 bronze metals. She was diving off the tall 
platform for Dock dogs. The owners had huge smiles and so did Tory. 

If we are not going to get out there and champion our dogs then who in the hell 
is???
Where ever we went with Tory people gathered and admired her. Not one person 
asked if she was American or German no one cared she was just a great dog that 
loved what she was doing and it showed.

We can blame our problems on the AR'ers and it is true they don't make life 
easier but the only way you can counter them is get your dogs out there and be 
seen enjoying them!!!!

Terry





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From: MORGAN LEWIS <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx; marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 9:41:19 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society

This sounds almost like the discussion we hear about education. Do we lower the 
STANDARD so that ALL can PASS. I THINK NOT, but that is the way of the public 
school system, I don't want no AVERAGE DOGS, and GOD knows if mine bit me every 
time I made a mistake, I would look like mincemeat!! (Now I have caught them 
laughing at me at times)

Morgan and His Angels
Precious, OFA
Princess, CGC, TDI, GSDCA Health Award
"RAW" fed, No Vaccinations

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breeds in Society
To: cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx, marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 11:03 AM


First off, let me say I never said "Modify temperament so we can sell to the 
average idiot". What I did say was that not all puppy buyers are perfect - no 
matter how much we teach, train and educate. In this society we live in, we 
need to have dogs that the average person can make a mistake on and not have to 
worry about a dog becoming a biter or eating the small dog across the street. 
Things happen in people's lives and we still need dogs that can fit those roles 
instead of having to be sent to rescue or worse yet, euthanized.



These DOGS need to fit in - no ifs/ands/butts. 



There is a difference between soft and spooky and hence we had a problem with 
the definition. A dog can be a spook without being soft - no question about it 
- fearbiters come to mind - those aren't soft dogs - those are dogs with either 
genetically poor temperaments or undersocialized.. Soft dogs are dogs that 
don't have the strong prey drive to chase little dogs and nip kids in the back 
of the legs.



Also, I never said we needed to make breeds SOFTER - what I did say is that 
dogs need to be modified to fit this society - that doesn't mean turning them 
into wimps! Dogs that allow for  few mistakes and don't turn into explosives.



Until people get their heads out of the sand, we are constantly going to fight 
the problem of dogs being biters and that breeds should be banned and 
eliminated because people are unwilling to make things FIT..



Its about breeder doing public education too....





Jessica MacMillan
Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com)
& The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC)
Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC


                          
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