Agree with both the two J's, Joan and Joey. When judging it is difficult to award finer points such as beautiful feet, good strong muzzles, correct shape and color of eyes because very, very few have strong driving rears with correct follow through. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JJogra@xxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:22 PM To: campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx; sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breed and needed improvements Very poor rears, locked hocks & dragging toes. Dead tails bouncing off the hocks. Temperament issues Joey In a message dated 1/11/2012 1:19:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: I am remembering the National and all the temperament problems. I can't remember one so bad. Also, I saw alot of really narrow dogs with flinging fronts coming at you. Joan Joan F. Fox website: http://www.campaignersgsds.com 17500 Haskins Rd. Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 Cell: 440-759-4119 >________________________________ > From: Sally <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx> >To: "campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx" <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx> >Cc: Showlist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:13 PM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breed and needed improvements > >Well having just judged dirty rears with bad follow thru . Level bites and some temperament .dogs from the Midwest and east coast. > >Sent from my iPad > >On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I would like to hear opinions on what are the prevalent faults you perceive in our breed today. >> It would be helpful if you stated the section of the country you show in and whether at AB or Specialty or both and the differences if any. >> If you wish to name bloodlines and do so privately, this will be totally respected and adhered to, and that is also welcome also as I am trying to gather some teaching materials. >> Later, I would like to begin discussion on positive attributes. >> >> Joan >> >> >> � >> Joan F. Fox >> website: �http://www.campaignersgsds.com >> 17500 Haskins Rd. >> Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 >> >> Cell: 440-759-4119 >> ===========================================================================> > POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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