In a message dated 7/24/2006 10:44:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, kebre1@xxxxxxx writes: I know everyone is talking about MD, but what about other problems? I hate to see a young dog with demodectic mange. I know all dogs carry the mites in the nasal cavity, and under stress it can flare up. But it is one thing that is horrible to clear up , if that is possible, especially when the dog has a severe case. You can't sell the dog, pet owners don't and shouldn't have to deal with this. I wouldn't want to breed this animal, I think it has to do with a low immune system, and it can't deal with stress , so out pops the mange. I can't believe there is a breeder out there that can't recognize this problem. Over the years I have had two puppies that I bought diagnosed w/ "puppy mange", which I later learned was demodectic mange. I had no idea BTW, the first was at the vets for routine shots, there was a very small spot on his back leg I'd caught him licking and the vet did a slide and saw mange. Basically, the vet said it was not a big deal and probably caused by the stress of coming to a new home (he'd flown in) and suggested Goodwinol (sp?) and said within 10 days, with or without treatment, it'd clear up and it did. Similar situation the second time, puppy came in, this time I suspected it, coincidentally, also on the inside back of his leg, although I still had the Goodwinol, I didn't treat it, remembering the common sense vet <G> and within days, all by itself, it cleared up. Neither puppy had a reoccurrence. Neither were ever bred BTW, the first was PTS w/ epilepsy, the second wasn't good enough. But, had they been without issues or good enough, my experience wouldn't have prevented me from using them. This was really a non-issue. I suspect there are different degrees of the problem, ranging from my experience to having a puppy with a horrible immune system. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================