Kathleen, you speak the truth, like a good Canadian would!!!. Bill Kathaleen Strong <inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I would hope that everyone who gets the license would know the standard backwards and forward, would have been in the trenches breeding and showing enough to "KNOW" what they want to say -- and then have the strength of conviction to actually say what they think. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in this breed that want to wear their rose colored glasses and not be told by someone who has the qualifications to judge their dogs -- what their dogs faults are. Then of course there was the fiasco at the National -- where the captive audience opportunity to bring a very useful tool to fruition -- to have the audience have a reason to sit, watch and maybe learn -- well IMO, it was so poorly handled that I doubt we'll ever see oral critique's at the National, and that is a shame, because well done, critiques at a show would be of benefit to a lot of people. Whether or not you agree with the judge's assessment, at least you know what they thought, what they saw, and believe it or not, other people's assessments of your dogs can be helpful. My 2 pennies worth. Kathaleen ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================