[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Oral Critiique at the Show
- From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
- To: <billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 20:47:59 -0700
When Dave Rinke gave his reasons for the top final placings of the classes, he
spoke
quickly
and efficiently and it took no more than a few seconds while he handed out
ribbons or
as he
took them for their final pass or gave them their final look. It did not
slow
anything down as
he gave brief clear reasons on his placings and you can see exactly what he is
describing.
Whether you agree with a Judge or not, I think clear and correct reasons are
appreciated
by everyone.
Every person ring-side is judging dogs AND judges as the show progresses, and
hearing
the Judge give quick succinct reasons for the placings will always be a good
thing.
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
Bill Basu <billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Fred, I think i speak for all of us
"enthusiasts" when we
say we encourage you to make this part of your regular "routine". When Rinke
did it
it took no
longer than 5 minutes per class. With the entries falling these days i don't
think
time should be
an issue.Bill
From: "Bill Basu"To: <almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> Amy,>
> It is interesting. I really feel that most of the ringside is fairly
> knowledgeable
> and atleast when Dave gave his critique(it was really more his reasoning for
> placing
> dogs in the places he did), he was short and sweet and did it in a way that
> was
> communcative(without sugar coating) and respectful. My feeling is that people
> were
> not upset but rather appreciative of his insights(because after all is that
> what we
> are asking a judge for anyway).> > Best of luck.> > Bill
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> almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Bill this is something i would like to do, time permitting.......it does
> serve as
> education
and an insight into > the judges judging.> I have heard that AKC frowns upon
this.
>
> I am sure it could cause some bad feelings also unless you sugar coat it all
> and then why bother. I guess some people just don't want to hear it or face
> the music that day..........and probably have complained about >
> it.............>
> Amy Safdir
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> From: "Bill Basu" > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Oral Critiique at the Show
>
>>A couple of months ago we in Nor. Cal. had the pleasure of showing under
>>Dave Rinke. Now i have shown Dave many a time but this time he did
>>something a little different. Dave added an oral critique of his 4 class
>>winners after every class. I thought it was very well received by the
>>exhibitors and handlers. It served as open eduction for what he saw and was
>>helpful for everyone to understand why he placed dogs as he did. It was
>>also a reflection of Dave's confidence in his opinion in that he was
>>willing to share it openly with all the ringside. I would like to see more
>>and more judges offer that sort of critique at ringside when the dogs and
>>exhibitors are all there. Some might have to be given a Megaphone as they
>>don't have the advantage of Dave's lungs.>>
>> Thoughts from you judges out there?????>>>>>> Bill
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