The rule merely requires that the person taking up bandwidth to brag on the List be the breeder or owner of the dog, or owner of the sire or dam. It does not say that bragging excludes handlers. If the handler's name is on the dog's AKC Reg. they are an owner and are able to brag. It's really is a simple and reasonable rule. There can be several owners and breeders AND Handlers on one dog...and THEIR fans, and groomers and conditioners/ trainers, etc. So how many people would we want to be able to brag on one dog and his wins..... owners, breeders, handlers, trainers, groomers conditioners and friends that love the dog, love the handler and love the owners and breeders..? Also, the Admn. reasonably asks that we not congratulate each brag publicly to save bandwidth on the List. How difficult is it to just hit "reply" instead of "reply all" when sending a congrats. I think our list Admn. does an admirable job. We should be able to easily comply with all rules and yet ........ even then, now and then we will make mistakes and need to be reminded. It has never been a 'hangin' offense' .......just occasional reminders. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: M Cheeks To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:02 AM While I can appreciate the List Rules on who can post brags, it is an interesting twist that only breeders & owners can post but not handlers. So many handlers now breed or co-own the dogs they exhibit, that this rule becomes a distinct disadvantage to one, such as George, who tends not to breed or put his name on his client's dogs. It's a shame that he will now be penalized for not having a "conflict of interest" as a handler. JMHO BTW, I don't have a vested interest in whether or not George can post, I just like to see fairness all around. Personally, I don't care for the redundancy of brags on the same dog, one from each breeder, one from each owner and one from the handler followed by posted congrats from each person who likes the dog. Mike TRAFALGAR German Shepherds TRAFALGARgsds@xxxxxxxxx 610-827-1833 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================