In a message dated 5/1/2005 9:30:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: > want the best judge whoever that might be. I don't want any limits on who > we have, so we can pick the best person every year. I don't want limits on > Selects just because I want the judge we pick to have the right to do the > job > they are elected to. > > When we try to express honesty or fairness with rules and laws, all we do > is > give the crooked people an incentive to find a way to beat the rules. You > can't legislate honesty or intelligence. All you can do is vote as best > you > can, and have faith in whom we elect. > I agree honesty and fairness can't be legislated. However just like we say there is "no perfect dog" there is no "perfect judge", because in something that is as subjective as the GSD world, perfection or degree of perfection is truly in the eye of the beholder. There is a wide variety of opinion as to who is and who is not a good judge. As a result we end up with judges that typically get in due to some concentrated voting lobby(eg. a handler gets togethor a bunch of his or her clients and gets someone voted in). This is ofcourse perfectly legal and happens in any and all voting mechanisms but it doesn't guarantee that the most qualified people get elected to judge the national. I think the single biggest negative issue that we face in the conformation ring is a general "lack of consistency and quality in judging". That is not to say that we don't have a handful of good judges, but try to have your friends name 5 and you will see the list is different for everyone and just like politics and religion you will see it that it will evoke the strongest of sentiments. I think the fact that we have rapidly declining entries, the board trying to mandate the tempermant testing, the board trying to mandate the number of selects is an indication of the lack of overall faith in the judging as a whole(be it honesty or knowledge or both). I don't believe you treat a problem by treating the symptoms, you have the treat the problem. In the perfect world every judge should be honest, every judge should take incredibly seriously their responsibility to the breed, every judge to work very hard to improve their knowledge. Knowing that we don't live in this perfect world the Board should always continue to stive for that perfection. Until we embark on a greater emphasis from our board on addressing the root problem(and not the symptoms) by sponsoring and supporting programs to improve our judging with things like: judging seminars, judging training and constant judging evaluation and re-evaluation. These are longer terms solutions but i fear that unless we are willing to address these our slide will continue. It's up to us. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================