In a message dated 9/21/10 7:23:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes: It makes a difference because I cannot and will not carry a 30" 120 lb male out of a forest or try to sling him up in a helicopter during a SAR mission! Would 20 pounds make a different in a Sakorsky? And, I don't think I could hike out of the forest with a 90 pound dog, that is what most of my males weigh. Then there is the problem of a rescue of a young women from the forest. If she weighs 120 pounds and stands over 30 inches, I guess they would have to leave her there and get a bigger fireman. That would be one large lady, wouldn't it? Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================