This is off topic, and I'm not even sure it is a GSD. My former neighbor sent this to me. She knew what kind of "dog lady" I was living across the road from me for 20 + years. I guess I am just venting to the list, but this kind of thing annoys the H*** out of me. How can so called breeders such as this get away with this? The bigger question is when will the general uninformed public learn? I answered my friend with a very long email. Before I can be more specific with answers to her questions I need to know the age and breed of the dog, and what paperwork she was given, etc. My feelings are the same as she a big UHG!!! Beryl Eshom Arelee GSD Davis, CA. <<My sister-in-law, Kristen has just bought a new puppy. She was telling me the puppy is gagging. It doesn't vomit. But it frequently gaggs. The "breeder" was located in Gardnerville and had over 45 puppies. Doesn't this sound like a puppy mill to you? I asked what kind of health certificate/guarantee they had and hips, elbows, eyes. And they didn't know what I was talking about. They said they had a health guarantee that was good until they took the pup in for its shots!! Then Richard said the dogs hips were guaranteed to be fine for it's life! The breeder also advised them to feed NutriMax mixed with any common cat food and mix in yogurt once a day. Have you ever heard of anything like that? Also, what about the gagging? I suggested they get to a vet immediately and call the breeder and get OFA cerificates and proof of eye exam. And also what is the current suggestion for feeding large breed puppies? Thanks, We are up here in Tahoe for a funeral tomorrow. Roger's uncle died. Then we head back home Wednesday at 6am...UHG! Love, Sandy >>> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================